Jacob VO: Hello, and welcome to Jacob Reed and me. Today’s episode is part two of a two-part story. We started last week. If you haven’t listened to “The Porn Star” yet, definitely go back and listen to that before you listen to this. Also, if you couldn’t tell based on the title alone… this episode discusses adult themes and just straight-up pornography. If that’s an issue for you or if you’ve got kids around, uh, maybe skip this one or throw on some headphones.
Jacob VO: In part one, I discovered that some adult films I was an extra in as part of a TV show I hosted for Playboy were on the internet. I also discovered…
Camera Guy: And what’s your name?
Porn Jacob: Jacob Reed
Jacob VO: I’m not the only Jacob Reed in porn. So, to make peace with my own porn history, I set out to find porn Jacob Reed. I found his real name, I found his socials–
Jacob: This is definitely this dude.
Jimmy: It’s him.
Jacob VO: …Left him a voicemail, called the companies he worked with,
Customer Support: We’re customer support for, uh, some websites.
Jacob VO: …stumbled upon some sketchy businesses…
Jacob: I am checking to make sure I was not followed outta that building.
Jacob VO: …reconnected with adult actors I’d met…
Joclyn: She’s got a pot roast in her hand instead of a dick.
Jacob VO: …and even found a guy in Paris he made a sex tape with.
Jess Royan: Il a fait une vidéo.
Dalya Guerin: He met him only once.
Jacob VO: But as far as talking to him, I struck out everywhere. And most of the people I turned to for help decided it was “not the right fit for them at this time.”
Jacob VO: [THEME MUSIC IN]
Jacob VO: Alright. You feel caught up? Good. Because on today’s episode, we’re going deeper… [DING]
- Jacob VO: I’m gonna get black balled!
- Jacob VO: It’s not our responsibility if anything goes wrong
- Jacob VO: Definitely some cringeworthy moments
- Jacob VO: I need to hear him speak in another video
- Jacob VO: I no longer trust your judgement
- Jacob VO: But none of this stuff is true
- Jacob VO: All you are doing is digging your own grave
- Jacob VO: I don’t know if you are prepared for this… but that is not the person I know.
Today’s episode: Jacob Reed #335: The Porn Star… Part Two.
Jacob VO: When we left off, I was out of ideas. I had spent months searching, exhausted every lead I had, and came up empty handed [DING]. The only thing I hadn’t tried was an audition tape. It felt like filming a porn audition was the last thing I needed to do. I was trying to get out of porn, not be in another one.
Jacob VO: But, if I sent an audition video to the companies Jacob Reed worked with him and could hopefully still put me in touch with him. And maybe just maybe my last ditch effort would be the one to finally connect me with Jacob Reed the porn star.
Jacob [Flashback]: Model for us, we’re always looking for handsome defined men to appear in our videos…
Jacob VO: Even if I wanted to be the guy auditioning, I am an out of shape, middle-aged dad. The companies who worked with Porn Jacob Reed exclusively used young jacked dudes, so it couldn’t be me. And if I wasn’t going to audition, I needed to find someone who would.
[Music IN]
Jacob VO: After some searching in Incognito Mode I found a sex work website called [BLEEP]. I made a post soliciting guys that might want to audition and let me document their audition process in exchange for help. I got a surprising amount of replies, so to weed it down, I did some interviews.
Jacob VO: [PHONE TRILL]
Jacob: I’m trying to reach Joe Blow.
Joe Blow: Yeah. Who’s this?
Jacob VO: Hmmm. That’s a good question. Let’s back up. So, here was my plan: the casting notices said they wanted to see… um… well this wasn’t what they called it but they wanted to see these guys pleasuring themselves… to completion. And, and, also to see what came out of them, when they completed.
So, my thought was: if I could jump into frame while they were pleasuring but before the completion, I would have the producer’s full attention. I could explain my podcast, tell them that I’m Jacob Reed, I’m looking for Jacob Reed, ask them if they would put me in touch with the other Jacob Reed… all before the auditionee completed their… completion.
Jacob VO: Then the person watching the tape who had worked with Jacob Reed would think it was funny and charming, and they would want to help us get in touch with Jacob Reed.
Jacob VO: Some of the guys weren’t down with my idea.
Jacob VO: I’m gonna get black balled! They’re gonna be “That guy! That’s the guy that sends videos with the other guy that pops up.”
Jacob VO: The only thing I’d be worried about is they could hang up on you and be like you’re wasting our time.
Jacob VO: And some of them weren’t down with my budget.
How about this: Um, I’d be cool with $2k.
Jacob VO: But eventually, I found some people who were into it.
Calvin: I do it all the time, so–
Jacob: Like, to send it to someone you do it all the time? Or just by yourself?
Calvin: I’ve done it like make videos and send it.
Jacob: So, the idea of me standing next to you, talking about my podcast while you pleasure yourself. You would still be able to perform?
Tristan: Uh, me? Yeah, probably.
Jacob: I’m not gonna harsh your vibe.
Tristan: [laughs] Oh no, probably not.
Jacob VO: In fact maybe a few people were too into it?
Luigi: I’m 100% down.
Foodstar: I think they’re going to laugh. I think they’re gonna be jaws dropped.
Luigi: That’s such a dope idea. Like, it’s, you’re blowing my mind right now.
Jacob VO: So I found some willing collaborators who not only could do the deed, but were positive and energetic enough that I started feeling like this could actually work. Now I needed somewhere to film.
Jacob VO: The porn sets I’d been on before during the Playboy Show were either legit studios or just big rented mansions. I couldn’t afford either of those.
Jacob VO: [PHONE TRILLS]
Automated Voice: Thank you for calling the Best Western. Please wait while your call is connected to the next available representative.
Destiny: This is Destiny. How can I help you today?
Jacob: Oh, hey Destiny. I had some questions about renting a room.
Destiny: How many guests will that be for?
Jacob: Uh, three. I think there’s three of us.
Destiny: All adults?
Jacob: Yeah, all adults. Definitely all adults.
Jacob: I wanted to ask whether or not you allow people to film pornographic videos in the room?
Jacob VO: Hotel Clerk: Uh, probably no.
Jacob: Sorry, say that again?
Hotel Clerk: Preferably no.
Jacob VO: Jacob: Preferably no.
Hotel Clerk: Preferably no.
Jacob VO: Jacob: Okay. How would you guys know if someone did film a pornographic video in the room?
Hotel Clerk: We won’t know, but that’s not our responsibility if anything goes wrong.
Jacob VO: Jacob: It’s better not to ask then?
Hotel Clerk: Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.
Jacob VO: It seemed like there was a general don’t ask, don’t tell policy. Okay, but they’re not responsible? Not responsible for what? Does that mean I’m responsible? Could I get in trouble? I started calling law firms to see if someone would give a broke podcaster some pro bono legal aid.
Legal Secretary: All right, so let me just repeat that. From what I understand, you guys are looking for Jacob Reed, but Jacob Reed is a former porn star, or their porn name was Jacob Reed.
Jacob: Mhm.
Legal Secretary: And in order to this other Jacob Reed, you have to go through these little porn canals or whatever so that you can grab their attention so that you can interview them.
Jacob VO: And I guess that’s where you’re trying to figure out where the legality stands in with , the making, the, the film process of everything.
Jacob: Yes.
Legal Secretary: Okay…. Very interesting phone call today.
Jacob VO: Whatever legal secretaries get paid, it’s not enough because that lady was very on top of things [DING].
Jacob VO: After leaving messages through several legal secretaries, I did talk to a few lawyers. And, would you believe none of them wanted to be recorded giving me advice about the legality of filming porn in a hotel room? But, the short answer was: if it’s not recognizable, you’re probably fine.
Jacob VO: I was ready to go, but there was one more person I needed to check with… my wife.
Jacob: We are thinking about submitting an audition tape. So I want to know if you’re cool with that.
Heather: You are doing this just so you can find out if you can get his number.
Jacob: Well, I don’t have any other way of getting through to him. Yeah,
Heather: It seems like there’s easier ways.
Jacob: Okay. Well, what I’m asking is as my wife and partner and the mother of my children, are you okay with me doing this?
Jacob VO: I’m fine with it. It just does not sound like a good idea.
Jacob: You don’t have a problem with me doing it. You just think it’s a waste of time.
Heather: Yes. So in that respect, I kind of have a–
Jacob: –have a problem with me doing it.
Heather: I just think it’s stupid.
Jacob VO: My wife, as usual, was right. What was I doing? Filming a porn audition for one of the companies he worked with was a Hail Mary. And with all the work I’d put into making that happen, it would still only reach one person. I needed to reach out to as many people as possible as fast as possible. I needed to find someone who could tell me how to find Bandersnatch Cumbershoot, or that he didn’t want to be found. I needed to go somewhere where I could expand my reach [DING] in a way that penetrated the entire industry [DING] in one massive shot. [DING DING DING]. I needed to go… to a porn convention.
Jacob: I’m on the ground here at AVN in Vegas, I can’t tell who is the adult industry and who is a fan.
Jacob:It looks like Comic Con, but with porn. Actually, know what? I would say it is indistinguishable the number of scantily clad busty women that are here versus Comic Con. It’s just a little more nakedly [DING] clear what they’re here for.
Jacob VO: That’s right. I asked my wife if she could take the kids solo for a couple days because I absolutely had to go to a porn convention in Vegas to see if anyone there knew Jacob Reed.
[Music IN]
Jacob VO: Hey, at least I wasn’t filming the audition. Right? After the break, I take a giant leap out of my comfort zone.
Jacob VO: BREAK
Jacob VO: To amplify my search for porn Jacob, I was at the largest porn convention in the world.
[Music IN]
Jacob: Alright, let’s walk this way and see what we find.
Michael Vegas: I’m Michael Vegas. I perform in adult films.
Susie Q: I’m Susie Q. I’m his wife.
Jacob: Oh my gosh, do you guys perform together?
Michael Vegas: We do perform together,
Jacob: That’s very adorable.
Michael Vegas: I met her in a gangbang.
Jacob: Okay. I met my wife a very different way.
Mariah Pink Kitty: How long do you do cam to cam? Until you cum.
Jacob: Me?!
Mariah Pink Kitty: No, I’m telling you. I do cam to cam until you cum or until you’re over it.
Jacob: So I’m on your webcam right now?
Mariah Pink Kitty: Yeah.
Jacob: I’m sorry to everyone who’s trying to just see nudity.
Mariah Pink Kitty: Okay. He said have him take over.
Jacob: Whoa! That’s better than ‘get rid of that guy!’
Jacob VO: ???: There’s a DVD called ‘Go Fuck Yourself’ or something, and it’s guys fucking their own assholes.
Jacob: What?!
Jacob VO: ???: You should Google it. Look it up.
Jacob: I don’t think I need to Google it.
Jacob VO: The porn convention was over stimulating in every sense of the word. But, it also ended up being a fertile area [DING] to probe people [DING] about how they got their names.
Jacob: What’s your adult name and how did you pick it?
Dread’s Way: My porn name Dread’s Way.
Lexa Love: Lexa Love.
Aria Faye: Aria Faye,
Dominic Pacifico: Dominic Pacifico.
Princess Anasia: princess Anasia
Tony Genius: tony genius
Mistress Veronica Vixen: Mistress Veronica Vixen
Sarah Arabic: Sarah Arabic,
Jack Hughman: jack Hughman.
Agatha Delicious: Agatha Delicious,
Magnum Max: magnum Max,
Ellie Stockholm: Ellie Stockholm, like Stockholm syndrome
Jacob VO: And it turns out there’s no one way to pick a porn name.
Constantine: Constantine is my middle name.
Addison Vodka: My name’s Addison Vodka. One night I was just drinking my friends, and I was like I love vodka. And the rest is history.
Autumn Orchid: My name Autumn Orchid. One of the things that I love about the orchid is that like it looks like female genitalia, but it’s actually named after male genitalia. Like, ‘orch,’ is the root word for testicles.
Jacob: What’s your adult name?
Toast: Toast.
[Music OUT]
Jacob: Just Toast?
Toast: Yup. like the bread.
Jacob: Like T O A S T?
Toast: Like the bread.
Jacob VO: (MUSIC BACK IN)
Jacob VO: I was meeting some wild characters, but when I asked them if they’d heard of Jacob Reed.
Lexa Love: I’ve never heard of him, sorry.
Jacob: Okay
Jacob VO: Mrs. Englewood: I don’t think so, no.
Travis Connor: Haven’t.
Jacob: Have not?
Travis Connor: No
Ellie Stockholm: No.
Jack Hughman: No. (reverbing out)
[MUSIC OUT]
Jacob VO: But porn is a world of categories and subcategories maybe it wasn’t going niche enough. I tried narrowing the search.
Jacob: It’s all um, european, like, male male stuff. It’s all gay.
Emily Bloom: There’s like separate room over there. There’s couple of tables with like gay companies. You would have a better luck asking there because they might know who he is.
Jacob: Awesome. That’s a lead!
Jacob VO: A porn star had just pointed to the far side of the convention center. So I set out into the porn abyss.
Jacob: Um, have you heard anything about a gay section of this convention?
AVN Staffer: You go down here, and you turn left at the next hall.
Jacob: Pardon me, sorry.
Sarah Arabic: You keep going there, you’ll see like big fancy booth all the way in the back.
Stella: Keep going that way. If you keep going that way, leathers. All around. Amazing. It’s like going to the Castro.
Jacob VO: I knew we were getting closer when the reactions to the pictures on my phone started to change.
Jacob: Have you ever heard of Jacob Reed?
Magnum Max: I know the face. I didn’t know that name. Yeah.
Jacob: Wait, do you really know the face?
Magnum Max: I’ve seen him before yeah.
Jacob: Have you ever worked with him or talked to him?
Magnum Max: I haven’t worked with him no.
Constantine: Oh he does look familiar.
Jacob: Wait, really? For real? Do you think you have ever met him or known anyone who’s worked with him, or? Uh,
Constantine: Uh, no, honestly, I know him from just the industry itself.
Dominic Pacifico: I do know the name
Jacob: okay. I’m going to show you his picture, does he look familiar?
Dominic Pacifico: Yes.
Jacob: So I’m trying to find him, because he chose, my name.
Dominic Pacifico: I do know who might know
Jacob: really?
Dominic Pacifico: Howard.
Jacob: Who’s Howard?
[MUSIC OUT]
Jacob: Who’s Howard? Well, I soon learned Howard was the number one gay porn agent in America. And he’s kind of an icon.
Howard: I am Howard Andrew. I own Fab Scout Entertainment the past 23 years or so. I represent a mountain of guys and picked probably about 4,500 names over the years.
Jacob: No!
Howard: Easily.
Jacob VO: Howard and I tried to find a quiet place to talk, which was very difficult. We ended up between a dildo stand and a game of cornhole where the hole was a giant picture of a butt hole.
Jacob: I’m wondering if you’ve ever heard of a porn star named Jake Reed. This is him.
Howard: I don’t but, was he United States?
Jacob: No.
Howard: That’s why.
Jacob: That’s, so you’re US.
Howard: Yeah. yeah.
Jacob: Damn. He’s Europe.
Howard: Okay, that’s why I was looking at it going,
Jacob: Who’s your European counterpart who’s named 4500 people in Europe?
Howard: I couldn’t even tell ya. I don’t deal with outside of the US because the US has some silly laws regarding travel and stuff like that and I stick I play by the book.
Jacob: That makes sense. The reason I’m asking, I don’t know if you had seen my name
Howard: I did.
Jacob: So this is my real name. You’re not phased by this.
Howard: Do you find it uncomfortable that somebody has your name?
Jacob: No. No, not at all. I’m just curious about, of all of the names, why he would pick my boring, normal name?
Howard: They probably didn’t pick it as your name. But it just randomly happens. Those names come anywhere from somebody’s enemy that was in high school picked their name if it was a bully, or today’s hot news story, or what street they lived on what city they’re from
Jacob VO: Was there a Jacob breed in my spreadsheet that bullied Bonito Clamberpants into choosing Jacob Reed as a porn name? Did he even choose his name at all? I had so many questions, but most importantly I wanted to know if Howard had any tips for finding him.
Howard: I would research the studios that he worked for. Maybe reach out to them?
Jacob VO: I tried that
Howard: take his image and it into Google images and see what comes up.
Jacob VO: And that
Howard: Look at Facebook or Instagram. , find him on social media and see what happens
Jacob VO: Howard was so nice to talk to me, but I wanted to grab him by the shoulders and just be like, Hey, man. I drove to Vegas with a bunch of pictures on my phone and I’m going up to random people with graphic photos asking if they recognize them. You don’t think I tried social media first?
Howard: um, yeah, but other ways to find people.
[MUSIC]
Jacob VO: I didn’t know what to do next. I’d left my wife and family to go to a porn convention, which felt like I was a great dad. And it didn’t even get me what I wanted and the whole drive back I couldn’t shake the feeling that there was something I was missing, a piece of the puzzle I had overlooked that would lead me straight to Barnacle Cummerbund.
Jacob VO: I knew that he worked in European porn and had the most British name imaginable…but in the one video where I could hear him talking – Tugging Ten Pounder, his audition video for Randy Blue – he speaks in an American accent.
Camera Guy: And what’s your name?
Porn Jacob: Jacob Reed
Camera Guy: And, uh, where are you from? Jacob?
Porn Jacob: Los Angeles.
Jacob VO: And I wasn’t the only one who found this unusual. So did associate producer Sofi Pascua.
Sofi: Well, Randy Blue is an American porn company. Didn’t you say that whole thing about how UK and American like porn, like they can’t really interact?
Jacob VO: Sofi’s talking about what Howard told me at AVN about Europe and American porn worlds being kind of separate
Jacob VO: We looked it up. Basically it’s because of work visas being especially hard to get for adult industry work because of a concern about human trafficking.
Margot: I’m starting to think he’s not British.
Jacob VO: That voice is co-executive producer Margot Leitman. She went to school in the UK, and it was the accent thing that bothered Margot the most.
Margot: Is he like from Juilliard with that American accent?
Jacob: There’s no fucking way that there’s an American guy named Brigerton Colteninny. There’s no way!
Margot: I need to hear him speak in another video because I don’t know if he’s doing a character,
[MUSIC IN]
Jacob VO: Up to this point, I’d been the only person on our team to watch Porn Jacob’s videos. I was trying to be a good boss by not asking anyone else to watch porn.
Jacob: Yeah, it looks like a gang bang. Uh, let me share my audio
Margot: I don’t need to hear the gang bang. I just wanna hear the talking and see how he talks.
Jacob: You know, Margot, if there was a way that I could only play you the talking, I, I would.
Jacob VO: The problems was, we were looking for any clue to Jacob’s accent. But, his videos didn’t have a long snorkeling improv scene. There was just boning.
Jacob VO: Looking for talking was like a needle in a haystack. Except for instead of a haystack, it was a gangbang. I did my best to share the relevant audio without oversharing.
Jacob VO: [PORN NOISES]
Jacob: I need a second, I’m sorry. I don’t know how to share what I saw in an appropriate way. But, it’s not something I’ve seen before.
Jacob VO: Margot: You don’t know how to explain what you saw but it’s not something you’ve seen before?
Jacob VO: Jacob: I just…there’s a level of… Yeah.
Jacob VO: Margot: Okay. Sexually, you’ve never seen it before. You don’t have to tell me more. Is he British?
Jacob: He’s not in it yet, so I’m scrolling through–
Jacob VO: Margot: Oh my god! Let’s get to him.
Porn character 1: He was a horny character innit he? Shag anything that moved.
Porn character 2: And hw was good at it as well.
Porn character 1: Oh yeah.
[GRAPHIC PORN NOISES]
Jacob: Oh! Sorry!
Margot: Oh, God!
Jacob: yeah, this is…
Sofi: Were any of those men Jacob Reed?
Jacob: I– to be super honest I just really quickly tried to just skip to something else. I wasn’t… I don’t think so… but these are.. I mean, these guys are super British.
Jacob VO: I was finding lots of evidence of Britishness, but it’s all circumstantial. People that aren’t Jacob Reed speaking in a British accent.
Jacob: Um, there’s eight comments. The first comment is “Hot. I love all the Sean Cody guys. They’re hot with that all-American circumcised look, which is very hot.” So that makes me think maybe he’s American. But, it doesn’t say anything about his voice.
Margot: But the circumcision thing is American.
Jacob: I don’t know.
Margot: Is he circumcised?
Jacob: Oh, boy. Let me go back.
Jacob: I don’t, I don’t know. Yeah. Oh boy. Let me go back.
Margot: No, it’s not common in Europe.
Jacob VO: As you recall, Margot spent a semester in London.
Jacob: Yes, he is circumcised.
Sofi: Okay. So he’s an American guy in the UK porn industry.
Jacob: It seems possible.
Sofi: With a very English name?
Margot: I think the English name is a fake name.
Jacob: That’s the thing is like, I think it might be too. Because this whole time we’ve been like, that is the most ridiculously British name ever.
Jacob VO: I’m going to stop this for a sec and admit our team got true crime podcast brain for a moment.
[MYSTERIOUS MUSIC IN]
Jacob VO: Full “red string on the walls” conspiracy theory rabbit hole. So, out of respect for our listeners, I’m going to skip ahead a couple of days. We did prove that this is his real name.
Margot: Okay, let’s just go over our evidence here: number one, first video we see he’s like —possible actual audition video.
Jacob: Uhhuh.
Margot: He says his name is Jake Reed. He has a very convincing American accent. He says he is from Los Angeles and then he’s straight. Which… I don’t know.
Jacob: But none of this stuff is true, like with any of these videos…. But the accent, I’m with you.
Margot: Okay, sure. The accent is nuts. And you’re saying that he’s circumcised. Which is something that I never thought about until today. And then number three: we can’t find anything of him speaking in a British accent?
Sofi: I’m looking into his Instagram and Facebook, just to see if I can hear him talk. I saw a picture, it was a flight to San Francisco and the caption was “Watch out America,” which makes me think that, like, he’s not usually in America. So…
Jacob: Yeah, I don’t say “Watch Out” my home town.
Margot: Okay, so I have a question for you.
Jacob: Uhhuh
Margot: Is that Jacob Reed. In that video that you showed us, this guy or not? Is it somebody else?
Jacob: It’s him
Margot: It’s the same face. Can we see it just when he says his name?
Jacob VO: I had been trying to not watch porn with my coworkers, but Margot still couldn’t let it go. So, I pulled up that first video where Jacob has an American accent one more time. Not just audio, the whole screen. I paused on a moment where he still had his clothes on, so everyone could take a look.
Sofi: Wait. I,
Margot: I’m not sure that’s him.
Jacob: It’s him. You think there’s two different guys that we’ve mixed up?
Margot: We have doubt.
Jacob VO: I had no doubt. I’d spent a full day at a porn convention showing people image after image of who Sofi and Margot now suspected might be two different people, and not a single one of the industry veterans ever mentioned that possibility.
Jacob: I mean, look, I’ve seen deep into this guy’s orifices watching these videos, and I, I, I haven’t done like a side by side like, you know, I’m on a crime scene investigation show comparison, but I feel very strongly these are all the same person.
Margot: Okay. Have you looked at his penis close up…
Jacob: Mhm…?
Margot: In the video where he’s speaking in an English accent? In the video where he’s speaking in an English accent?
Sophia: I do think we need to see both of their penises.
Jacob VO: That’s Sophia, another producer on the show. Because, at this point, other team members had now joined the Zoom.
Sophia: I no longer trust your judgement. This is identifying information. It’s like a fingerprint.
Jacob VO: Any boundaries I’d tried to create for our team now totally dissolved. I was now screening porn for my coworkers. Not just the audio. Not before the clothes came off. This was officially an X-rated zoom call.
[PORN MUSIC AND NOISES]
Jacob: I mean, he’s pulling it kind of a weird way, but it does look like it has a little bit of a bend in it.
Margot: It’s hard to tell.
Jacob: But this is no tattoos yet. I mean, this guy has a totally different build. But, this is — these are five years apart too.
Danny: Can we do a face close-up to face close-up?
Jacob VO: That’s executive producer Danny O’Malley. He mostly makes prestige docu-series like CHef’s Table, but now he’s doing this.
Danny: Front penis to back penis.
Jacob VO: This side-by-side genital analysis slash team bonding exrcise went on for much longer than I hope any of you are ever asked to do a side-by-side genital analysis with your coworkers. But then at some point, Sofi asked to share her screen.
Sofi: I was scouring the internet. Here’s Jake Reed, British Jake Reed. This is what he looks like. But, look at his face. On his right cheek he has a mole. Now, this is the guy who said, ‘I’m Jake Reed, I’m from LA, I’m straight.’ No mole.
Margot: Oh my God.
Jacob: Wait a second.
Sofi: This is the LA guy. I think this is a different porn actor who’s American and goes by the name Jake Reed.
Jacob: No fucking way.
Sofi: Look at his face. I think this is a different face.
Margot: And here we thought the circumcision was the smoking gun. It’s the mole!
Jacob VO: Jacob; Hold on a second. You guys think there’s two different guys?
Danny: I mean, how many Jacob Reeds are there on your list? Why is it strange that there’s two porn stars?
Margot: Wait, I found another mole. THere’ sa mole.
Jacob: This one here?
Margot: Ah! Yeah! Butt freckle. Now look for that on him.
Jacob: Oh my god.
Margot: Ah! No! No mole. No mole! Go back! No mole. No mole. No!
Jacob: No, that’s— the mole would be underneath here. You wouldn’t see it.
Margot: No, Jacob. You have to accept it. This is a different man.
Jacob VO: There was no way. I was more than a year into this investigation and I was certain that Birkenstock Crinkleberry was our man. A man who, like thousands of British thespians before him, had a great American accent.
Margot (Flashback): Is he, like, from Juilliard with that American accent?
Jacob VO: A man who was well-traveled and did porn in different countries.
Sofi (Flashback): The caption was, ‘Watch out America’
Jacob VO: A man that Jimmy and I found on the porn wiki.
Jacob (Flashback): This is definitely this dude.
Jimmy (Flashback): It’s him.
Jacob VO: A man I showed to everyone at AVN and not one person questioned if it was the same guy.
Magnum Max (Flashback): I’ve seen him before yeah.
Constantine (Flashback): Oh he does look familiar.
Jacob VO: There was no way.
Danny: I am wholly convinced that they’re two different people.
Jacob: it is not that I’m refusing to believe this, I’m open to this being different people.
Danny: You’re tad behind where the reality is.
Danny: It’s pretty closed case. They’re different people.
Jacob: So there’s two porn Jacob Reeds?!
Jacob VO: That’s right. Today on the show: Jacob Reed #339 and Jacob Reed #752. We’ll right back after some ads.
[STING MUSIC]
Jacob VO: The only thing that could have made this harder (ding) is the realization that we weren’t looking for porn Jacob Reed… We were looking for two porn Jacob Reeds. We still had to find Benedict Cumberbatch, the UK adult actor who performed under the name Jacob Reed. And now, we had to figure out who is Jacob Reed from “Jacob Reed Tugging 10 Pounder.” Is his name really Jacob Reed? Is he actually a straight guy from Los Angeles? And if he is based in the US. Does that mean Howard Andrews knows him?
Howard (On Voicemail): Hi, it’s Howard. I can’t get to the phone right now. Either leave me a message or send me text or try the office or send me an email.
Automated voice: The mailbox is full and cannot accept any messages at this time. Goodbye.
Jacob VO: Howard’s a busy guy. But after some phone tag, I did have a brief conversation with him that I forgot to record. He didn’t gimme all the information I was looking for. Instead he said something cryptic. Like I would find my answers if I looked into what was going on at [BLEEP] dot com.
Jacob VO: It was very deep throat. [DING]
Jacob VO: I searched [BLEEP] dot com for American porn star Jacob Reed. The only two videos that seemed to have him in them were ones I had already found: Tugging 10 Pounder, which I believed to be the audition video for porn site Randy Blue, and quote “Cliff,” an audition video for another porn site called Sean Cody, which wasn’t available anywhere. I even signed up for a Sean Cody trial, and they had thousands of videos, but no Cliff.
Jacob VO: But in searching for Sean Cody, two other names kept coming up attached to their company. Those names were Jason Bumpus and Walden Woods. And just while like how the porn Jacob Reeds turned out to be two different guys who shared the same name, Jason Bumpus and Walden Woods turned out to be one guy with two names.
Jacob: What should I call you?
Jason: You can call me Walden. The name has more notoriety than Jason let’s put it that way
Jacob: should I not mention the name Jason at all?
Jason: I don’t mind. It’s, it’s out there. I’ve already been doxed. It’s fine.
Jacob VO: Walden was the Vice President of Operations for Sean Cody. He also directed a bunch of their videos, including the casting couches. And, when I emailed him to talk, he confirmed that he had worked with Jacob Reed.
Jason: In about 2009 Sean Cody essentially turned that idea of those creepy porn couch interviews, they kind of reimagined it. And they refined it.
Jacob VO: Instead of having that creepy audition, we’d have our models kind of pampered. The day before, have ’em taken up to dinner, we’d have picked up in a limo. they’d arrive, they’d have an amazing, lunch. So by the time they were on those, beautifully decorated sets with amazing camera people, they were comfortable. And we took away all the stuff that made you kind of skeeze out. , and just made it enjoyable to watch.
Jacob VO: For almost a decade, Sean Cody was the number one destination for gay porn. One of the things that made it unique was that the guys who modeled for them were often straight.
Camera Guy (Flashback): Cool. Are you, uh, bi gay or straight?
Porn Jacob (Flashback): Straight.
Jason: It’s gay for pay. That’s, that’s a taboo.
Jacob: Did Sean Cody invent that genre?
Jason: No, I mean, I think that genre may have been invented, probably like 1500 BC. Uh, but they really were straight I mean. Everyone did everything willingly. It was always consensual. We’d watch these straight models go from, solo, to coming back with another person. And then before you know it, you have this straight guy enjoying himself.
Jacob VO: I explained my search, and the fact that I was looking for two Jacob Reeds, UK Porn Jacob, and Sean Cody’s Porn Jacob. Since I couldn’t find the Sean Cody video, I showed him the one I found from the other porn site, Randy Blue.
Jacob VO: [laughing]
Jacob: You’re laughing. Do you–
Jason: I am laughing ‘ ’cause that is not our Jacob Reed
Jacob: What?!
Jason: I dunno if you were prepared for this, but that is not the person I know.
Jacob: Okay. So what you’re telling me I think is that there are not one, not two, but there are three porn Jacob Reeds
Jason: Yes.
Jacob VO: [laughter]
Jacob: What the fuck?
Jacob VO: Two porn Jacobs was already more than I could handle [DING] Now, we were looking for a third [DING].
Jacob: Wait, what? What? Um. Okay. This is amazing. What can you tell me about them?
Jason: Um, Jacob Reed is a former adult entertainer, um, from back in the day in the early 2010s… (fade out)
Jacob VO: Waldon explained that his Jacob Reed was in the adult industry and performed under a pseudonym
Jason: Um, I won’t, I won’t say his, um, porn studio name, just so we don’t out him. But, um, I worked with him for about three years. Uh, he and I became super close. If he showed up on set and I wasn’t his director, he would wait until I was available or my shoot was over so that I would film him. One of our most prolific models.
Jacob: So if I was only looking for Jacob Reeds, he never would’ve shown up…
Jason: No.
Jacob VO: The third porn Jacob was hiding in plain sight somewhere on the Sean Cody website. But he wasn’t Cliff. Cliff only started using the name Jacob Reed when he started working for other studios.
Jason: So I used to actually name some of the models, uh, at Sean Cody we did one word names. And if you were to actually look through like all of them sequentially you can actually kind of see some like pop culture references in there.
Jacob VO: Um, like there was a phase where we were definitely watching way too much Game of Thrones. You got some Jersey Shore influences. and then if it got to the point of just like, oh, we’re stuck. we had a baby book on my desk. We pulled our, names out out of our asses most of the time. [DING]
Jacob VO: I asked Walden if he had any way of getting in touch with the porn actor Jacob Reed who was also known as Cliff.
Jacob VO: Something happened with Sean Cody’s, uh, record keeping, where they lost like half their their library. Right.
Jacob VO: That explains why the Cliff video wasn’t on Sean Cody’s website. Well, if Walden couldn’t put me in touch with Porn Jacob Number Two, maybe he could connect me to Porn Jacob Number Three.
Jason: Yeah. Hundred percent. Let’s keep cracking this fun little mystery.
Jacob VO: I went back and forth for a bit with Walden and he eventually confirmed that his Jacob breed had no interest in this project at this time. So at this point we’ve got UK porn Jacob— AKA Bandicoot Crumpetbottom—who we’ve reached out to and not heard back from. We also have US porn, Jacob Reed, AKA Cliff, who we don’t have a way to reach out to and whose information has been lost.
Jacob VO: Finally, we have Walden’s porn Jacob Reed, who we have a way to reach, but who has respectfully declined.
Jacob VO: Talking with Walden got me thinking about my own history with the Playboy channel. I wasn’t wind and dined like a Sean Cody star. I didn’t even get to go to the mansion. But I remember it being pretty fun, in a weird way. I was in my early twenties and I was grateful that I got this TV hosting job while the rest of my friends were grinding [DING] and hustling, trying to get a PA gig.
Jacob VO: And, sure, it wasn’t my dream job. But who gets their dream job right outta college?
Jacob VO: Anyway, that’s how I remembered it. What did other people who worked on the show think about the experience?
Jacob VO: I reached out to the other hosts. I tried getting hold of the production company. I called office staff, different PAs that we worked with in random cities that we filmed in.
Jacob VO: Some people did get back to me, many didn’t. And anyone who did ultimately decided it was ‘not a good fit for them at this time,’ with one exception.
Paul: Hey, this is Paul. Dang. I was the, wait, what’d you want me to say? I forgot. What was the part? I forgot. What
Jacob: Honestly. I’m probably just gonna use this clip of you.
Paul: What was what, I can’t. This is fucking hard. Okay.
Jacob VO: I hadn’t talked to Paul in 15 years, but it felt like we were right back on set together. Paul had been a camera operator for the production company on several of the shows they made for Playboy,
Jacob VO: I asked him if he remembered meeting me.
Paul: I mean, I probably was a little bit. Uh, uh, Confused. You know, you were sort of like… nerdy and kind of awkward and not necessarily the most fit. Certainly cute looking, not ugly, but, um—
Jacob: Are you saying that I didn’t come across as a ladies man?
Paul: uh,
Jacob VO: I felt very uncomfortable in that world. And as much as those moments were edited out of the final episodes, Paul was there live. He told me he re-watched some episodes when I reached out to him.
Paul: It’s funny to see them, honestly. There’s definitely some cringe-worthy moments.
Jacob VO: There’s like, oh my gosh, I can’t believe we did that. And you can, and you can see it on your faces, like, I’m sure at the time I realized it too, but watching it now, it’s like, oh, those poor guys.
Jacob: Yeah, it was a wild experience
Paul: You did a great job. But, I mean, you just feel kind of bad, like, ’cause it got, there were couple times where it’s like it got really awkward, like, so one of them you’re just sitting next to two girls who are just, completely naked just doing adult things and making noises and you were just really close to these girls. And it’s not like you were scared of them. You’re just like, trying to be kind of fun and lighthearted. And It was, It was just like awkward (fade out)
Jacob VO: I remembered this moment. I definitely did not know how to act. On the one hand, I was 23 surrounded by attractive naked women, and biology and curiosity are… strong urges.
Jacob VO: On the other hand, it felt rude to look because those are their private parts, and they were just people at their job trying to do their job. On the other other hand, the job they’re trying to do is be sexy and have people look at them.
Jacob: It was weird because like, I don’t know if being polite is like ogling them because that’s what is, you know, when in Rome that’s what you’re supposed to do. And like, that’s the polite thing to do in this situation. Or if I was just like, ‘I wanna treat you like a person, but you’re like, you know. Uh, sitting on top of me, like, with hand inside yourself.’
Jacob VO: One situation I remember was that we were doing some bit of hosting to camera, lying in a bed, and then Paul widened the angle to reveal there were naked women on either side of us. I don’t know if they did it on their own or if the producers told them to… but when the cameras started rolling, things got physical.
Jacob: They started like, feeling me up, uh, you know, in, in, on my body, all the parts of my body.
Jacob VO: Um, what I felt uncomfortable saying to Paul is that they were putting their hands on my crotch and trying to, uh, you know, make things happen.
Jacob: And I remember just being like, oh, uh, uh, no thanks. And like, you know, today we would be like, that was assault. But I, I mean, I didn’t feel like the victim, but I remember often feeling like, oh, I wanna be polite to these people?
Paul: You were more the kind of, you know, kind of nice, kind of nerdy kind of fun guy. And then some girl’s gonna, you know, feel you up. It’s like, your tendency at least that in that character is not to be like, “Hey, yeah, baby.” It just like, being kind of an awkward encounter on camera I guess that’s part of the comedy.
Jacob VO: I asked Paul if he also remembered being told the show would have only topless women and not show penetration, genitals, or sex.
Paul: You’re right about that. And when I first started getting trained as a cameraman for Playboy. It’s like, “Okay Paul. We can show the car. We can show the garage. We can’t show the car going into the garage.” We would try to creatively frame so that something’s blocking the garage, or the car going into the garage.
Jacob: And you just see like the second story of the house? Or the person driving the car?
Paul: Exactly right. Yeah. Yeah. I don’t know why but they end up showing a lot of the car going into the garage or the back of the garage. Oh. A lot of the back of the garage. You saw it inside the garage a lot.
Jacob: It’s practically Jay Leno’s garage by the time the show comes out.
Jacob VO: This was the first time in more than a decade that I’d talked to someone about the show who had actually worked on it. Severa, Catalina, Jocelyn—they were all subjects of segments on the show, but they weren’t there day to day. Paul was.
Jacob VO: And talking to him about the experience, the highs, the lows, how awkward and uncomfortable it was, made me feel seen.
Jacob VO: It was such a bizarre and singular experience that almost nobody I know has gone through, and the other people that have gone through it haven’t wanted to talk about it. Catching up and joking around with Paul made me realize I had been carrying around 10 pounds of baggage for years, and now this huge weight had been lifted so that I, Jacob Reed, no longer had to be tugging 10 pounder.
Jacob VO: Now, I could get 10 Pounder off my chest. [Ding]
Jacob VO: My conversation with Paul confirmed the vibe of the show. It wasn’t awful. It wasn’t great. It was a job. It was kind of fun and novel at the time, but it was definitely weird and I didn’t feel like I was in charge of a lot of my own decisions
Jacob VO: It was an experience and show that for a million different reasons would never exist today, and if it did, it wouldn’t be the right fit for me at this time.
Jacob VO: But I was a part of it, and it was time to confront that reality.
Jacob VO: After the break, I re-watch The Playboy Show.
Jacob (Flashback): I’m Jacob from Playboy…
[BREAK]
Jacob VO: I was starting to understand what it felt like to be in Porn Jacob’s shoes, to have decisions you made a long time ago have an echo that still rings in your ears. I’d never really talked about or processed the experience, and it was becoming clear that I needed to. So, I sat down and watched every episode of the show.
Jacob: I’m Jacob from Playboy.
Catalina: Hey, Jacob.
Jacob: We’re right about to shoot an episode of Naughty Office.
Jacob: So, today, Mickey’s going to film four new scenes for three different sites.
Jacob VO: It was both better and worse than I thought it was. The better part is that the majority of the show is just kind of boring. If you ignore the naked people, the show was merely an advertisement for a bunch of porn sites posing as a TV show.
Jacob VO: There was virtually no substance.
Jacob: Why is story so important to these scenes?
Porn Actor 1: The story kind of makes it a fantasy.
Jacob: Why do you think you have what it takes to perform on camera?
Porn Actor 2: Because I got a big dick.
Jacob: So why is it important that the girls be so beautiful?
Porn Actor 4: I think guys and girls wanna jack off to really hot girls,
Jacob VO: And the things that were taboo at the time, the nudity, sex work, the different kinks, are all kinda commonplace now. Mainstream actors have OnlyFans, pop singers do ads for polyamory dating apps, a trilogy of mainstream BDSM movies made $1.3 billion worldwide, and that was a decade ago. Re-watching it, the sex and nudity part of the show was just kinda boring, and the sexual innuendo was not only cringey, but showed how naive I was at the time.
Jacob VO: Here’s a clip of me not realizing that a happy ending is already something sexual.
Porn Actor 3: Pretty much in a nutshell, I’ll be giving a massage with a happy ending.
Jacob: A very happy ending.
Porn Actor 3: Yeah. That’s what I do.
Jacob VO: The worst part was how many casual bro-y things I said. So if we ever do get so lucky to have two chicks at the same time, what is the best advice you could give us for how to handle that situation?
Jacob: What makes her so good at the blowjobs?
Mikey: They have a much prettier, tighter pussy, and, um, always smell nice.
Jacob VO: Here I am interviewing the male lead in a porn scene. The way I would describe this 15 years later is that it’s about someone who continually sexually harasses their coworker until they eventually decide it’s less trouble to just relent. But the way I framed it in 2008 was…
Jacob: So do you think there’s like a lesson in this about persistence and like persistence pays?
Danny: Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. If you’re a man and you want a woman, don’t give up.
Jacob VO: Even the jokes and ad libs that I remembered being funny…
Jacob: blowjob-tastic
Jacob VO: her boobs are out, so that’s cool.
Jacob VO: how could a pile of girls making out with each other not be awesome?
Jacob VO: …are just cringy.
Jacob VO: I remember having problems with some of the lines, and as I got more comfortable voicing an opinion, I also remember talking to the producers about them. But that only makes me more horrified by the things I did agree to say.
Jacob: Why is it that western men are so infatuated with Eastern women?
Mkey: There’s a lot of reasons why, what I discovered when I was with my first Asian girl, they have a much prettier, tighter pussy and um, always smelled nice.
Porn Actor 6: On the other sets that I’ve worked for, you know, they ask you to speak in a funny accent and be submissive, you know, the typical Asian stereotype.
Jacob: So what do you mean by like a funny accent?
Porn Actor 6: Oh, you know, like, um, oh, welcome to, uh, massage Par. I give you massage
Jacob VO: Before watching this episode, my memory of it was that there was a line in the script that made a reference to “yellow fever” a derogatory term for the fetishization of East Asian and Southeast Asian men and women. I remember refusing to say the line, and helping the producer script some alts. Rewatching the episode… I learned the alts weren’t much better.
Jacob: So sit back, relax, and get ready to be loved. Long time by asiandivagirls.com.
Jacob VO: As I went through the episodes, I was mortified. I wanted to give 23-year-old me a hug and somehow make him as comfortable as I am now, both being around sex and speaking up when something is problematic. Watching it almost two decades later made me realize how out of my depth I was. At the time, it felt like the producers of the show genuinely thought that I was funny.
Jacob VO: Was that them producing me to get the bro-y show that they always intended on making? Or did they genuinely have aspirations of doing something kind of funny and cool and different before it got put into the network notes machine and became the show that eventually aired? I really don’t know. When I started this search, I was embarrassed by the porn scene and thought that the context around it would make it less embarrassing.
Jacob VO: But after watching the show, I realized the context was what was embarrassing. The porn really wasn’t that bad. After my rewatch, I did get one more person involved to talk to me. Well, she wasn’t directly involved with our show. Actually, she may have been involved with its cancellation.
Wendy: I’m an Emmy winning TV producer and writer who somehow managed to become a head of programming at Playboy TV.
Jacob VO: That’s Wendy Miller, the head of programming for Playboy TV from 2010 to 2017.
Wendy: I was in charge of green-lighting lots of shows designed to attract couples to the channel, which is coded language for women, and I spent seven years there, had the time of my life, made a bunch of really great shows, and became a certified sexologist as a result.
Jacob VO: Okay, I should note that Wendy didn’t technically cancel the show I was on, but she was hired as part of a push to move away from that type of programming.
Wendy: Before I started they really didn’t spend too much time worrying about quality.
Jacob VO: They had shows like, hot Chicks, doing Stuff Naked, was actually the name of a show. And all wives cheat, like some really misogynistic garbage.
Jacob VO: And so they brought me in to create premium programming,
Jacob VO: Playboy’s brand was all over pop culture in the early 2000s, but their cable channel was basically softcore porn.
Jacob VO: Talking to Wendy. It seemed like our show was an early attempt to do something journalistic that ended up falling back on the classic formula.
Wendy: This is a company that really had been trending down for some time, they brought me in because I’d have a lot of bonafides. the people who produced all those shows, they were not that thrilled to see me walking in there knowing that I have a different directive, different budgets and different genitalia than them.
Jacob: Was it all men in leadership over there?
Wendy: Yes. It was all men. There were a lot of people who were what we’d call FOH or Friends of Hef, and they got paid lots and lots of money to create terrible shows and they were untouchable. And so they brought me in and I’m shaking things up a little bit, and so I have to tread very lightly.
Jacob VO: I had been told by the production company this show was going to be journalistic and comedic. The show was created during the culture of Playboy TV that Wendy was describing, where most of what they were making was what she called misogynistic garbage. I don’t know who pitched the show, but it does feel like whatever notes it got were coming from these same Friends Of Hef that ran the network before Wendy came in.
Wendy: Friends of Hef had money just to throw at really dumb shit. These are people who would like, show up in the office in like a track suit with no shirt on. Uh, yeah, and they were all just cheese ball, stupid and expensive. And I had to do smart shows for less money.
Jacob: For the show we were making but when I saw the first episode I was horrified because it was this, like, what did I get myself into?
Wendy: the fact that your comedy bits were being, uh, butted up against hardcore sex was probably very troubling for you.
Jacob VO: I told Wendy about all of the cringey discoveries I’d made looking back at the old tapes.
Jacob: And like, that’s what I actually said, that I didn’t push back on. Or maybe I did push back on and that was the compromise. Watching it, it, it, I, I guess I’m trying to grapple with like, was I part of the problem?
Wendy: Okay, first of all, I implore you to stop talking about this because all you are doing is digging your own grave.
Jacob VO: So I would recommend, respectfully, that you really don’t talk about this very much. The adult industry, because it was such a, a world of freedom, people pushed things a little bit further than they could other places. There are a couple of shows, especially comedy shows, stamped by me to get on the air, where at the time, people were making jokes that seemed to be okay, which just a few years later are horrific.
Jacob VO: But at the time, I did not realize how hurtful they were. I can’t go back and scrub them. But you’re right, some shitty things were said, and you said them. If it really troubles you, I think you just have to say, “Look, I’m sorry I said it. I understand that it was wrong now, and I wish I understood that then, but I wasn’t in a place of power to advocate for myself, or I didn’t realize how hurtful it could be to certain people, and for that, I’m sorry.”
Jacob VO: Just own it.
Jacob VO: After talking to Wendy I felt differently about my time working on the Playboy Show. More than anything, the lack of context and control over context was what bothered me.
Jacob VO: The context of who I was and am as a person wasn’t reflected in the final edit of the show because I had no control over that edit.
Jacob VO: But here I am, making a podcast with total control over an edit, retelling the story so that I can give all of the context. And, I realize I’m asking someone to be a part of that story without giving them the kind of context I would want for myself.
[MUSIC]
Jacob VO: When we found Benedict Cumberbatch, I had my producer Danny reach out instead of me. I asked porn stars how to reach him. I got a translator and called someone in Paris to see if they’d pass along a message. I almost made a porn audition to get the attention of someone who used to work with him so that they could tell him if they even still had his contact information. When I finally found his phone number, I didn’t fully explain why I wanted to talk.
Jacob VO: Doing all those things allowed me to confront my own time in the adult industry, to examine how I view sex work, to see things from multiple sides of that industry. And while none of them got me any closer to talking to Porn Jacob Reed, they helped me revisit something I was clearly avoiding.
Jacob VO: Reaching out to him all of these indirect ways was partially because I was afraid of scaring him off. But thinking about it from the standpoint of the Playboy Show I was on, I really would have liked all of the information before I decided if I wanted to do it. Throughout this journey, I had continued to call, text, and direct message Buffalo Calcium, but the messages were all unread.
Jacob VO: Maybe it was because it was an old number or he didn’t use those social accounts. Or maybe it’s ’cause I wasn’t being direct. At first it was, “Hey, I wanna talk to you about the time you used Jacob Reed as your name.” And then it was, “Hey, uh, I, I’m, so I’m also Jacob Reed.” And then I even left one that was like, “Hey, I’m not mad you used my name.
Jacob VO: I just wanna talk about it.” But I wasn’t really telling him anything about why. I hadn’t been transparent with Benedict Cumberbatch the way I would have wanted the producers of that show to be transparent with me. And the one thing I hadn’t tried was letting it all hang out
Jacob VO: So I called him, and I didn’t hold back
British Voice: “Benedict Cumberbatch”
Automated Voice: Can’t take your call right now. Just leave your message after the tone. When you’re done, press hash or just hang up.
Jacob VO: Hey, my name’s Jacob Reed, and, uh, first of all, I’m so sorry to… I, I don’t know if you’re getting my messages or not. He just is reaching out Is I am working on a project.
Jacob VO: Uh, I’m an artist and a filmmaker. I’m doing a project, and I’m I also ended up in some adult films, uh, and I actually found that there’s two other people named Jacob Reed. you know, about other people who have been named Jacob Reed or used the name Jacob Reed. Um, and I was But I just wanted to give you all of the information.
Jacob VO: You can check it out. I don’t know if that’s something that that’s a world you wanna be a part of anymore. Maybe you don’t wanna be a part of it. Um, either way, just I just wanted basically to talk to you about why that name was picked, um, as the pseudonym. Um, So I hope you’re having a great day, and, um, I, I hope I get to talk to you ’cause you seem like a very just cool, interesting person… [fade out]
Jacob VO: And as for why he picked my name? That will have to remain a mystery. Maybe it was his high school bully, or a name his agent had come across that stood out to him, maybe he grew up on Jacob street and his first pet was named Reed. Maybe it was because he wanted to be hard to find and it was so common place that there turned out not to just be one Jacob Reed in porn, but three… I guess four if you count me.
Jacob VO: I looked at the source code for the porn database and saw that it wasn’t him that added the real name. So, I applied for an editor level membership and…
Jacob: Jake Reed.
Jacob: It’s got, um, uh, foot fetish n for skin cut, frontal y, gaping n hair color, black height, 1 8 3. Nationality, British Natural, but Y oil wrestling, n penis size 19 pubic hair trimmed. Real name, I’m gonna delete that and I’m gonna type in Benedict Cumberbatch.
Jacob: Right next to Rim Job: N; Rimming: Y; Solo ass fingering: Y
Jacob VO: …and apply changes. There you go. He gets his anonymity back.
[END CREDIT MUSIC]
Jacob VO: Jacob Reed and Me is a production of Same Name LLC in association with All Trades Co and End of the Road Films.
Jacob VO: Our executive producers are Danny O’Malley, Alex Rivest, Adam Paul Smith, Chris Kelly, and me, Jacob Reed. Our co-executive producer is Margot Leitman. Today’s episode was produced by Sofi Pascua. It was edited by Sophia Lanman, Sofi Pascua, Cate Smierciak, and me. Our associate producers were Sophia Lanman and Josie Lamzik.
Jacob VO: The show is written by Margot Leitman, Danny O’Malley and me, Jacob Reed.
Jacob VO: Today’s episode was mixed by Rich Malstrom, with additional field recording by Ben Forman and Matt Mazany.
Jacob VO: Our theme song was composed by Daniel Walter with additional music by Daniel Walter, Blue Dot Sessions, and Epidemic sound.
Jacob VO: Our interns for this episode were Quinn Jennings, Dylan Keeffe, and Sam Walker.
Jacob VO: Special thanks to our friends and family, and to Chris Berube, Catalina Cruz, Mike Leffingwell, Yak Manrique, Matt Mazany, Mike Robertson, Barry Rothbart, and everybody at XBIZ, AVN, and all of the individual adult industry folks who were nice enough to talk to us at both of those conventions.
Jacob VO: Also, to our doppelganger detectives on the Jacob Reed and Me Patreon, Andrea Wagman Christian, Lauren Walchok, Marcus Ryle, Michelle Rubenstein, Sarah Jensen Bivens, and Willie Nast, and to indie podcast darlings Ben Rosenbaum, Carolyn Sr, Doggy Daddy, Edith, and Jerome Pascua. If you like the show, please write a review, tell a friend, entertainment journalist, celebrity, or multimillionaire.
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Jacob VO: This podcast was recorded in the Octavia Lab, a DIY makerspace named after celebrated science fiction author Octavia E. Butler, located inside Los Angeles Public Library’s downtown Central Library, which is celebrating its one hundred-year anniversary this year. Visit lapl.org/labs to learn more about the free equipment and resources offered at the Octavia Lab. The library does not endorse or oppose the views or topics discussed in this podcast—especially this episode. However, I, Jacob Reed, endorse the library. Libraries are the coolest.